Listen to Him!

15 Dec 2013

We hear again and again from the believers: Listen to the Word of God. Hear the message of the Bible. Know your scriptures. Listen to Him!

The usual atheist response is... to agree wholeheartedly! I'd love people to know the message of the Bible! So here's a handy starter guide; feel free to cut and paste wherever needed. Like this: 

"You say we should all listen to what your God has to say? I totally agree! I've read his Word, and here are some highlights:"

God loves slavery (Leviticus 25:44-46)

God hands down rules for the proper way to kill your slaves (Exodus 21:20-21)

God tells us what to do when when we feel a rape victim didn’t protest loudly enough: execute her (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

God commands rape victims (whom we don’t execute) to marry their rapists (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

God and Moses command the slaughter of men, women, and children, with virgin girls alone to be saved for rape (Numbers 31:7-18)

God commands that pregnant women be “ripped open by swords” to make sure the fetuses are killed too (Hosea 13:16)

God lays down the rules for forcing enslaved women into marriage (Deuteronomy 21:10-14)

God commands his people to slaughter men, women, boys, and girls, and “fill the courtyard” with their corpses (Ezekiel 9:5-7)

God demands discrimination against people with physical deformities (Leviticus 21:16-23)

Jesus gives the thumbs-up to slavery (Ephesians 6:5)

Seriously, the New Testament really is cool with slavery (1 Peter 2:18, 1 Timothy 6:1-2)

The Bible tells women to shut up and obey men (1 Timothy 2:11-15, 1 Corinthians 14:33-35)

Seriously, women, you’re inferior to men (1 Corinthians 11:3-10)

God’s champion David butchers the people of a city with axes and saws (1 Chronicles 20:1-3)

God prescribes limb amputation for women who stop fights the wrong way (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)

God slaughters innocent firstborn sons of people and animals, because Pharaoh was stubborn (Exodus 12:29-30)

God demands execution by stoning for non-virgin women who marry (Deuteronomy 22:20-21), and burning alive for priests’ daughters who fornicate (Leviticus 21:9)

God commands more burnt human sacrifice (Genesis 22:1-2, 1 Kings 13:1-2)

God’s champions burn men and women alive in a building (Judges 9:42-49)

God demands more deaths, including starvation for children (Jeremiah 11:22-23)

God (again) commands the butchering of children and babies (Isaiah 13:15-18)

God sets down the rules for turning people into slaves for life (Exodus 21:2-6)

God details the procedures for selling women into slavery, including selling them back if the master is displeased (Exodus 21:7-11)

God helps his people divvy up their plunder, including 32,000 girls (Numbers 31:25-35)

Outside a single boat, God slaughters every man, women, child, infant, and fetus on earth (Genesis 7:19-23)

God’s curse is upon anyone who “holds back his sword from blood” (Jeremiah 48:10)

God’s miracle slaughters “men and women, young and old” in Jericho (Joshua 6:20-21)

God clarifies that when slaughtering the inhabitants of a city, it’s all right to keep the girls for rape (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

God further clarifies his scorched earth policy for razing cities and killing all inhabitants (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)

Mmm, mmm! Now that's good readin'!

Got any scriptures that should be added to that list? Let me know!

Comments

I HOPE YOU TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS WITH AN OPEN MIND, AND TRULY TAKE IT IN. And I trust that you will, considering if you don't, then this website of yours is simply for you to rant about how much you hate God and religious people, and not for a fair argument. If you do read this don't be thinking in the back of your mind about how much you hate God or somebody you've met in your past with a religion. The King James Bible is the preserved word of God, I believe that whole heartedly. Other religions and even bibles in the Christian religion aren't as scientifically, morally, and logically accurate as the King James Bible is. So listen to what I have to say please. Ignore any typos because I did this kinda fast, and again, please read this with an open mind. Thank you for your time if you wish to give it to me.

{The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. (Psalms 12:6-7)}

Leviticus 25:44-46 = If you had included verses before that, like many debating atheists do not, God was saying that the Hebrews he brought from Egypt shouldn't be sold as bondmen and rulled over with rigour, like the other native bondmen and bondmaids were. And by that He was simply stating that bondmen and bondmaids existed. He wasn't condoning it. He referred to them as being "of the heathen that are round you". So God was just clarifying to you, the reader, that slavery existed. History books talk about slavery, that doesn't mean the author was for it. 

Exodus 21:20-21 = First of all any laws about death in the Old testament are going to be old covenant laws, back when Jesus' blood wasn't covering us so we had to have major guidelines. BUT, this verse again is referring to slaves because they existed. Not because he liked it. It was the law of the land, so he treated it as so. People did belong to people in those days. People didn't punish people for beating slaves, but killing them would be different. It was just the law of the land. Don't blame God for reporting on the past.

Deut 22:23-24 = God is talking about killing adulterers to rid evil from Israel. He is not talking about rapists. The woman "because she cried not" means she was not opposed to sleeping with the man.

Deut 22:28-29 God is talking about people commiting adultery not rapists. They must get married because they've had sex and created the bond that's only meant for marriage. *See our wonderful unmarried and divorce-crazed economy for results*

Numbers 31:7-18 = I don't know what your strange fascination is with rape (it's probably just your rebellion against God, and wanting to make Him look evil), but this passage again talks nothing about rape. When it says to keep the women who have not laid with a man, for themselves, that means they will be taking them as wives. Let me just stop you here and say, GOD NEVER COMMANDS RAPE IN THE BIBLE. Anyone who says so, then puts the location of a verse after it, only hopes to confuse those who aren't going to look it up.

Hosea 13:16 = God is speaking about Samaria rebelling against Him, and that they are like the "morning cloud" or "early dew that passeth away", so they are going to perish. Although, He would be right in doing so, never in this passage does He even say that He will be the one doing the killing. He only speaks of how the humans of the land will perish, which could merely mean that He has taken his protection off of the land. If people rebel against God, they're doing things now on their own. And so "they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up", means that their legacy will be no more, they will not produce more kings or princes. Empires of men fall, God's kingdom is forever.

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 = ONCE AGAIN, never in this passage does it mention rape. You can say, "Oh well the woman never says she wants to get married to this man," but you're not living in that culture. There's cultures today that don't even allow choosing in marriage. But anyway, if you went on reading after 14, you'd see it starts to talk about having more than one wife. In the beginning God created one man and one woman for each other. God is not for polygamy. He was, again, talking about the laws of the land at that time. 

Ezekiel 9:5-7 = God is never happy to have anyone killed, let me assure you that. If you created something dear to you and you had to destroy it because it's harmful to itself or others, it would be a sad thing. Imagine how he felt during the flood?? But yes this passage is talking about a man being commanded to go with 6 men to destroy all who don't "sigh and cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof". Yes, God had all the wicked in that city killed. Not the innocent, the wicked. Don't you think that's nice? Or are you one of those "Let murderers do what they're gonna do and leave them alone", kind of people? If you could see the outcome of what a wicked society, or even one evil person could be, wouldn't you have it destroyed? God is just. Back then when a city or nation would turn from Him and there would be no hope, He would have it warned, or rid his presence from it, or simply destroy it. Of course, that's back before Jesus, so things are different now. He's now just accumulating all his wrath for when He gets the last word to all of our godless attempts are governing ourselves.

Leviticus 21:16-23 = All of Leviticus 21, and even before that, God is explaining how holy He is, and making guidelines to the Jews that are basically unable to be met, at least most of them, to show how holy He is. It's a humbling moment when we get to sit back and realize that nobody is ever going to be perfect, or live a completely righteous life. Jesus comes along later and fulfills a righteous life, and dies in our place, so that we are able to create a relationship with the almighty, holy God. These verses you brought up were simply talking about how imperfect humans are. You'd really think God would be against people with blemishes, and not want them to come to Him? He's just making a point, that blemishes are a human flaw and He's God.

Ephesians 6:5 = Really? This was easy. God is all about obedience. He honors those who are obedient. So why wouldn't Jesus say for servants to honor their masters. Slavery was allowed, so why wouldn't He think it's honorable for servants to honor their masters no matter what the situation was? And who says that He isn't also referring to jobs? Aren't bosses our masters? Don't we have to honor them? 

 

If you took the time to actually read this, and would like me to do the rest of your verses, just let me know. I gladly will when I get the chance.

-Chris

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Hello! Thanks for the long input, and please accept my apologies for the slow reply. Traveling a bit lately...

Let me ask one thing up front: Are you writing one giant paragraph, or is the site smushing your paragraphs into one? I ask because comment formatting has gone wonky at times, and I want to apologize (and look into the problem) if the site software is making your reply hard to read.

In any case, your message deserves a proper answer, but I'm afraid long comments and long responses can get lost in the crowd. (And I really need to change the graphic handling of comments; they're aligned in ways that make the conversation thread hard to follow.)

So to make reading easier for all visitors, I'll address your comment directly in a new post. See you on the front page!

Dear chris, the problem with relig people is that they start their research and reasoning with a conclusion that everything in their text is true..it wont get u anywere...! Suspend that judjement and then u might endup enlightening urself..!

Everything in God's word is true, which is what I claim. If I mess up in my text, then that's because I'm human. But unless I'm mistaken, "Defaithed, because your religion is wrong" is a conclusion. Any atheist has reached a conclusion they feel is true. Everybody reaches conclusions, not just "religious" people. It all matters about where you got your information. Hmmm, a bible: 66 books written by different people with different backgrounds in different cultures at different times, yet all of the teachings and messages are harmonious. That couldn't happen if we tried it on our own. Two people can differ on one thought but agree on another, yet this bible amazingly doesn't. Because those people allowed God to speak through them. The bible teaches science that mainstream science took years to find out. Back when everyone thought the earth was flat, the bible talks about God sitting on the "circle of the earth", the earth being "suspended on nothing". The bible talks about sending messages by electricity, the hydrological cycle, springs in the sea, the paths "current" in the sea, etc. God is all for science, he created it. The bible gives dates of people's lives, which gives us a timeline of earth which goes back about 6000 years. Oddly enough, the oldest tree and the oldest reef in the world are both under 4000 years old (4000 years ago being the flood). Those just being examples. Anything you'd date wouldn't be over 4000 years old. Carbon dating is very inaccurate. You can get two different dates from different parts of the same object. Evolution is a religion you atheists have come to the conclusion of, with no obvservable science to back it up. So again, everybody reaches conclusions. Just depends on where you got your information that determines if you're right or not.

The oldest tree and reef are between 4 and 5000 not under 4. Sorry, I was typing fast. 

Young-earth "proof" #26: The oldest coral reef is about 4200 years old.

26. What does the age of a coral reef have to do with the age of the earth? If, in fact, the oldest coral reef is 4200 years old, so what? There is no argument here for a young earth, but such a suspicious figure (which fits so conveniently into Hovind's flood chronology) requires investigation! During the Arkansas trial of Act 590 in 1981 the subject of coral growth came up:

Roth, [who was] not a member of the CRS [Creation Research Society], was presented as an expert on coral reefs whose thesis is that corals grow very rapidly and do not need millions of years to form massive reefs. He testified for 70 minutes, but the crossexamination was brief. Q: "What is the last sentence of your article on the growth of coral reefs?" A: "...this does not establish rapid growth of coral development." Q: "Is there any evidence that coral reefs were created in recent times?" A: "No." Q: "No further questions."

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